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RTF2 Gen 3 Glocks are back

Introduced in 2009, Glock came out with an updated version of their Gen 3 models that featured a very aggressive grip pattern dubbed the “Rough Texture Finish, Version 2,” commonly just called RTF2. While some loved it, others panned it as being too coarse on their hands and clothes, and it wasn’t carried over to the new Gen 4 lines.

Which is a shame, because the 2,000 small icepick-like pyramids on the grip really were my favorite Glock texture.

I give you my RTF2 Gen 3 G22:

But now there is a reason to rejoice, as Glock just announced the RTF2 is making a comeback!

More in my column at Guns.com

Glock Gen 5 G17 and G19 drop on the market this week

It looks boringly like every other Glock out there, but when you look closely, there are actually a number of subtle differences. Most notably, the polygonal rifling is out and traditional ballard-style rifling is in. Also, the fingergrooves, standard since the Gen 3, are a thing of the past. I do like the flared magwell, though, but for the record I will likely stick to the Gen3 G19 that I have been using for years. If it isn’t broke…

From Glock:

On August 30, GLOCK, Inc. will be announcing the launch of our new G17 Gen5 and G19 Gen5 pistols.

The G17 Gen5 and G19 Gen5 pistols were inspired by the GLOCK M pistols used by the FBI and include many features the GLOCK community has been asking for. There are over 20 design changes which differentiate our Gen5 pistols from their Gen4 predecessors, including a flared mag-well, a new nDLC finish, the GLOCK Marksman Barrel, ambidextrous slide stop levers, and a grip which has no finger grooves.

These pistols will be available at your favorite GLOCK dealer beginning August 30.

A shot of the Glock M (that the FBI is issuing with a finger grip sleeve!) :

Marketing slick for Glock dealers (from my local Glock dealer).

They expect to retail these in-shop for $539

Chris Bartocci talks more about the Gen5 barrels below.

Vickers Tactical drops limited run of Gen 3 RTF2 Glocks

Partnered with Lipsey’s, Larry Vickers has talked Glock into another limited run of RTF2 two-tone grey Glock 17 and 19 pistols that bring back a rare and now much-sought after crowd pleaser.

What is RTF2?

In 2009, Glock came out with an updated version of their gun that featured better ergonomics named the “Rough Texture Finish, Version 2,” or commonly just called RTF2.

Besides the texture, along the slide, a set of scalloped cutouts replaced the strait up and down slide serrations that had been a facet of the Glock since its introduction in the 1980s. These cutouts were shaped like thumbnails and were instantly but dubbed ‘fish gills’ by those who encountered them.

Besides the slide, the entire lower frame grip surface area was stippled in fine lines. These lines worked like non-skid and gave the gun an almost instant tackiness when picked up, eliminating complaints from those who contended the Glock sometimes got slippery when wet.

While some complained that the new grip was too abrasive to their sensitive hands, many shooters took immediately to the RTF2. The Gen 3 pistols were the pinnacle of the designs to that point, incorporating lessons learned from twenty years of making the polymer guns. That, coupled with the radical new grip offered by the RTF2 seemed a winning combination and the texture was soon seen on the 17, 19, 21SF, 22, 23, 31 and 32.

Nevertheless, that wasn’t the case as the RTF3 and finally much more subtle RTF4 series of less aggressive truncated pyramids became standard on the Gen 4 Glocks when they were introduced.

Then there was trouble in paradise.

In late 2010, Glock stated though channels they would only sell RTF 2 Gen 3s (though without the gills) through law enforcement channels in the future as they weren’t selling well to the non-law enforcement market, but were still viable in the cop market.

Last November Larry Vickers and Lipseys announced that they would release a limited run of 5000 new RTF2 Gen 3s in FDE (is that enough abbreviations for you, or do you want more?) split between G17 and G19 models which shows at least that these guns were still in some form of production even after being “replaced” five years ago.

Now they are back and better than ever

Announced Dec. 15 by Lipsey’s and dropped on Larry V’s social media account, cause Larry is that kinda guy, these guns are a direct answer to how popular last year’s 5K run was. Moreover, these have lots of goodies.

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Read the rest in my column at Glock Forum

Is RTF2 really dead? Long live RTF2!

My G22 Joker with RTF2. What's RTF2? Keep reading.

My G22 Joker with RTF2. What’s RTF2? Keep reading.

In 2009, Glock came out with an updated version of their gun that featured better ergonomics named the “Rough Texture Finish, Version 2,” or commonly just called RTF2.

Besides the texture, along the slide, a set of scalloped cutouts replaced the strait up and down slide serrations that had been a facet of the Glock since its introduction in the 1980s. These cutouts were shaped like thumbnails and were instantly but dubbed ‘fish gills’ by those who encountered them.

Besides the slide, the entire lower frame grip surface area was stippled in fine lines. These lines worked like non-skid and gave the gun an almost instant tackiness when picked up, eliminating complaints from those who contended the Glock sometimes got slippery when wet.

While some complained that the new grip was too abrasive to their sensitive hands, many shooters took immediately to the RTF2. The Gen 3 pistols were the pinnacle of the designs to that point, incorporating lessons learned from twenty years of making the polymer guns. That, coupled with the radical new grip offered by the RTF2 seemed a winning combination and the texture was soon seen on the 17, 19, 21SF, 22, 23, 31 and 32.

Nevertheless, that wasn’t the case as the RTF3 and finally much more subtle RTF4 series of less aggressive truncated pyramids became standard on the Gen 4 Glocks when they were introduced.

It’s my personal favorite (hey, at least I’m honest). I have a G22 of this variety that has a documented 11,700 rounds through it with no issues other than a cracked magazine baseplate (that was my fault) and, while I have a set of replacement springs on hand, the gun still functions fine with the factory originals.

Others also fell in love with the design. In 2012, Colion Noir declared the G19 RTF2 his “IDPA gun of choice” writing a short article about it the next year after still loving it and doing a video of his gun, calling the gun “aggressive” and cautioning that its not for everyone.

(Note he also did a NSFW mashup on the discontinuation of the texture featuring an irate Hitler)

Then there was trouble in paradise.

In late 2010, Glock stated though channels they would only sell RTF 2 Gen 3s (though without the gills) through law enforcement channels in the future as they weren’t selling well to the non-law enforcement market, but were still viable in the cop market.

However, that’s not entirely true. An agency whose range I use often in South Mississippi switched from the RTF2 G22 to a Gen 4/G22 after complaints the gun’s texture worked pills up on their poly uniform shirts and scarred the inside of their enforcer’s consoles.

Want to see a picture?

Yup, the same thing on the console of my ole Jeep, from my personal RTF grizzly bear. Meh. It’s a Jeep. It adds character.

Yup, the same thing on the console of my ole Jeep, from my personal RTF grizzly bear. Meh. It’s a Jeep. It adds character.

Last November Larry Vickers and Lipseys announced that they would release a limited run of 5000 new but gill-less RTF2 Gen 3s in FDE (is that enough abbreviations for you, or do you want more?) split between G17 and G19 models which shows at least that these guns were still in some form of production even after being “replaced” five years ago.

As could be discerned, the gills are gone for good. The G22 RTF2 was first introduced for release in the 2009 Shot Show (January 2009) then the G17 RTF2 was announced for release May 2009. That makes it a 18 month run for the G22 RTF2 with crescent serrations and an 14 month run for the G17 RTF2 with crescent serrations

Word is Glock will still do special RTF2 runs such as the Vickers combo if you request them in quantity large enough for them to be worth their while.

I have an email into Smyrna to see just how big of a run that is, or if the rumor is even true.

Watch this space for updates.