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Grant’s ‘Lost’ Remmys

Here’s something you don’t see every day:

The above is a matching set of Remington’s New Model Army revolvers, with ornate work from iconic Master Engraver Louis D. Nimschke. Serial Nos. #1 and #2, they were presented to Maj. Gen. Ulysses S. Grant in the latter half of 1863 or early 1864, as he was transitioning from leading forces in the West, facing foes such as Beauregard, Pemberton, Bragg, and Johnston, to setting up shop with the Army of the Potomac on the center stage of the Civil War in the brutal Overland Campaign, facing Lee.

Late firearms author and expert Steve Fjestad (the guy who started the Blue Book) said of the set, “Without a doubt, these cased Remingtons constitute the most elaborate and historically significant set of currently known revolvers manufactured during the Civil War.”

After being in Grant’s family into the 1930s, they circulated among collectors but were hidden from public display until 2018. Now, they are up for auction at Rock Island next month.

The estimated price runs to as much as $3 million.

“Army Model” Revolvers, Old and New

The top revolver is a circa 1865 martially-marked Remington New Army .44 while the “identical cousin” below it is a 1999-produced Ruger Old Army.

(Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)

While they look very similar cosmetically, they are, in fact, quite different.

To find out just how much, check out my column at Guns.com.

Ruger’s black powder hog leg: The Old Army

Most firearms companies specialize in either black powder guns, or modern smokeless powder guns. A notable example of one that dallies in both ponds is Sturm, Ruger, who have long-produced a black powder version of their M77 bolt action rifle (the 77/50) as well as an excellent reboot of a Union Army service revolver from the Civil War period– the Old Army.

The Remington Daddy

During the US Civil War, more than two million Americans were called volunteered for or called to the service of their state, territory, or country. They were armed with any number of weapons including muskets, carbines, shotguns, pistols, pikes, lances, sabers and of course, revolvers. One of the most common Union revolvers encountered during and after the war was the Remington 44. Also known as the Remington Model of 1858, they were produced by Eliphalet Remington & Sons, in Ilion, New York from a patent by Fordyce Beals between 1862-1875.

The author's Remington New Army, complete with both U.S. and (likely Bannerman-applied) Confederate markings.

The author’s Remington New Army, complete with both U.S. and (likely Bannerman-applied) Confederate markings.

Several versions of the Remington 1858 were produced with the 1863-vintage New Model Army being the most popular. The New Model Army has an 8-inch barrel, a new front sight, a low spur trigger, larger loading lever and a cylinder pin that was held by two pins. The New Model Army, with its solid top strap was one of the most powerful and rugged performers of its day and outlasted many of its competitors.

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Loading one of these revolvers was a chore, with each cylinder needing to be filled in turn with charge of black powder, a ball, and a wad– then primed with a cap to enable it to ignite on fall of the hammer. The whole affair needed to be cleaned off to make sure random bits of powder did not ignite the other chambers when one was struck, a disaster known as “chain fire” which was often terminal for the revolver and dangerous to the firer.

While a gunfighter or soldier could carry a second, loaded cylinder, this was impractical and most who anticipated a close-in fight with multiple adversaries would often carry a second revolver. In fact, William Quantrill and other infamous Confederate Missouri raiders carried as many as a dozen cap and ball revolvers as it was far easier to tug out another six-shooter than to reload an exhausted one.

Quantrill Raider George Maddox shown in his fine hat and boots-- and pair of captured Remington New Army revolvers (note he has at least three other small revolvers tucked). He survived the war, worked as a prison guard and railwayman, and died in Missouri in 1906. Photo by the Library of Congress

Quantrill Raider George Maddox shown in his fine hat and boots– and a pair of captured Remington New Army revolvers (note he has at least three other small revolvers tucked). He survived the war, worked as a prison guard and railwayman, and died in Missouri in 1906. Photo by the Library of Congress

More than 132,000 of these New Army revolvers were made (as well as another 100,000 of the other Remington 1858 models). Of course, not all of these went to the Union Army (some were captured and reused by the boys in gray) and after the war a number were made for the Armies of the Tsar, the Mikado of old Japan, the King of England, and the Republic of Mexico, remaining in production until 1875. They were found in US service as late as the Plains Indian Wars and even carried by some volunteers as late as the Spanish American War.

By the turn of the century with inexpensive Iver Johnson and Savage cartridge handguns available, those New Armies that were not converted to cartridge cylinder guns were going for just a handful of Buffalo Nickels. Today they are incredibly collectable.

Then, in 1971, Bill Ruger went for his reboot….Enter the Old Army

The author's 1998-vintage Ruger Old Army in .457BP with 7.75-inch barrel. The gun is a massive three-pounder that is almost 14-inches long

The author’s 1998-vintage Ruger Old Army in .457BP with 7.75-inch barrel. The gun is a massive three-pounder that is almost 14-inches long

Read the rest in my column at Ruger Talk

A Remington 1858 with a Story

During the US Civil War, more than two million Americans were called volunteered for or called to the service of their state, territory, or country. They were armed with any number of weapons including muskets, carbines, shotguns, pistols, pikes, lances, sabers and of course, revolvers. One of the most common Union revolvers encountered during and after the war was the Remington 44. Also known as the Remington Model of 1858, they were produced by Eliphalet Remington & Sons, in Ilion, New York from a patent by Fordyce Beals between 1862-1875.


Several versions of the Remington 1858 were produced with the 1863-vintage New Model Army being the most popular. The New Model Army has an 8-inch barrel, a new front sight, a low spur trigger, larger loading lever and a cylinder pin that was held by two pins. The New Model Army, with its solid top strap was one of the most powerful and rugged performers of its day and outlasted many of its competitors.

This one has a secret….find out what it is at my column at Firearms Talk.