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Jolly Rogers and tigerstripes

AP Wire Photo: 4 August 1964

Dig the M1 carbines and tiger stripe camo. Hallmarks of the mid-1960s Mike Force units.

Official caption:

Skull and Crossbones on the Cambodian border. Two leaders of a special South Vietnamese government platoon, identified by the Skull and Crossbones kerchief they wear, lead [a] group along a canal that marks the Cambodian border in the Plain of Reeds west of Saigon. The special outfit undertakes terrorist actions against the Viet Cong villages.

Both the Vietnamese Rangers (Biệt Động Quân) and Special Forces (Lực Lượng Đặc Biệt) used tigerstripe as did the “Sea Tigers” of Republic of Vietnam Marine Corps (TQLC) and Green Beret-organized CIDG units.

Of the latter, Mike (Mobile Strike) Force units, recruited from Hmong, Nung, and Montagnard peoples, often used Jolly Rogers in their locally-made insignia and “M.F.” patches.

Camelot comes to Bragg, a study in a more refined time

A relaxed President John F. Kennedy talks to three “All American” officers of the 82nd Airborne Division during his visit to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, 12 October 1961

JFK, a Navy man, of course, has his hands in his pockets but his suit fits great and would blend right in on Mad Men. Note the officers as well, with shined jump boots, bloused and starched OD fatigues (complete with sharp creases) and tie-downs for the M1911 holsters. The WWII-era M1 Carbines (the Army had not moved to the M16 at the time and the M14 was often seen as too bulky for airborne operations) as well as the old Duck Hunter camo covers on their steel pots complete the setup.

There is salty, and then there is this guy

Found on Reddit

Indigenous member of U.S. Army Special Forces-organized MIKE force smoking his pipe after a firefight. Vietnam, mid-1960’s. Note the WWII-surplus Marine “duck hunter” camo and post-1944 modified M1 Carbine. I would imagine this fellow was probably pretty hard to kill.

Made up mostly of Montagnard hill people and other ethnic minorities, the Mobile Strike Force Command grew out of the armed hamlet program and CIDG units of the pre-Tet phase of the U.S. involvement in South Vietnam.

Note the SF advisor with the in-country made skull and crossbones MIKE Force patch

Inside the CMP, and the word on M1s coming back from overseas and possible 1911s…

To see just what the non-profit has on the shelf, I visited the Civilian Marksmanship’s South operations in Anniston. Co-located near the Anniston Army Depot — which is actually in nearby Bynum — and stores much of the Army’s stockpile of guns and items not needed for current operations, the CMP has a series of warehouses dotting the rolling hills of the area.

Unfortunately, most of them are nearly empty.

While now-retired CMP boss Orest Michaels told me back in 2010 the organization had 125,000 M1 rifles on hand including complete rifles, stripped receivers, and welded drill rifles, the group is coy about just what the numbers are today after several years of brisk sales and surging interest in U.S. martial rifles.

As Jim Townsend, CMP’s business development officer, walked me through a tour of their largest warehouse, he swept his arms over a large expanse of empty floor space and said, “When I first started here, this whole side of the building was full of M1s.” Repurposed crates that once contained M1s returning from allies in Greece and Denmark now hold everything but.

Repurposed crates that once contained M1s returning from allies in Greece and Denmark now hold everything but.

Why keep the empty space?

Check out my column at Guns.com for the answer.

The ‘new’ Inland looks to bring back the ‘old’ T3 .30 Caliber Carbine

Ohio-based Inland Manufacturing team has reached back into the history books for a rare scoped version of the classic M1 Carbine of World War II.

Founded in 2013, Inland has been making a series of classic reproductions of U.S. martial arms to include a new production model of the M37 Trench shotgun, the GI 1911, and several variants of the “warbaby” .30 caliber M1 Carbine. The new company named themselves after the Inland Manufacturing Division of General Motors, originally established in 1922 and went extinct in 1989, that made a ton of M1 Carbines during the war.

Their latest model, dubbed the T30, is an ode to the late-war production T3 Carbine. That gun, which later evolved into the very neat M3 Carbine (not to be confused with the .45ACP M3 Grease Gun), was an attempt to make a specialized little popgun which came with a scope base instead of conventional sights and included a cone shaped flash hider.

A rare WWII-era Inland Division of GM made T3 Carbine. Something like 99 percent of these guns were scrapped in the 1950s.

A rare WWII-era Inland Division of GM made T3 Carbine. Something like 99 percent of these guns were scrapped in the 1950s.

Winchester and Inland made about 1,970 of these guns in late 1944 and early 1945 and they were equipped with optics to include a very neat early infrared sniperscope that was used in the Okinawa campaign as well as to a degree in Korea.

Australian soldier takes aim with his M3 Carbine during the Korean war. Note the extensive infrared spotting system

Australian soldier takes aim with his M3 Carbine during the Korean war. Note the extensive infrared spotting system powered by the handy dandy backpack

While most T3s/M3s were scrapped in the 1950s, and a few (usually with the infrared scope) are in museums and pop up from time to time at auction, they are among the most collectable of the more than six million .30 caliber carbines made during the war.

Inland’s repro, the T30, comes complete with a period-correct Redfield-style scope base welded to the receiver like the T3/M3– which will take 1-inch and 30mm Redfield rings– as well as the clamp-on conical flash hider. This is also an improvement over the old T3, as that wartime production gun had the base pinned/brazed on to the receiver– and the option for a new production Hilux M82 sniper scope.

The New Inland T30

The New Inland T30

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CMP to see (a few) M1 Carbines

I remember as a kid you could buy M1903A3s and M1917s from the Civilian Marksmanship Program for a song. Those WWI/WWII supplies ran out about the time Clinton did.

For the past 20 years or so its just been M1 Garands left (I picked up a couple back when they were around $350-$400 and wish I had bought more) with the occasional other martial arm sold at auction as old stocks were handed over by the Army– typically from guns returned from overseas (a bunch of Bavarian police marked M1 Carbines came back several years ago) and by disbanded veterans groups (sadly, the Greatest Generation is going the way of the Doughboys).

The CMP has M1 Carbines availible in limited supply

Well it seems CMP has picked up enough M1 Carbines from old Army stocks to release some to the public starting Feb. 1.

They will have guns made by Inland, Winchester, IBM, Quality Hardware, Saginaw, Standard Product and Underwood in two grades: Service for $685 each and Field for $625 each, with free shipping.

What they carried: Malay Emergency

Between 1948 and 1960, the UK and Commonwealth allies fought a very hot guerrilla war against the Malayan National Liberation Army (MNLA), the military arm of the Malayan Communist Party (MCP). This effort is often called Britain’s Vietnam and, unlike the U.S., the Brits won this counterinsurgency campaign and left a template n how to do it the right way while they won hearts and minds.

Malay and New Zealand soldiers on a jungle patrol, c1957 Note the L1A1s and Owens

Malay and New Zealand soldiers on a jungle patrol, c1957 Note the L1A1s, Bren gun and Owens

Of course, the Malayan Home Guard outnumbered the Min Yuen by a factor of about 2:1 and the Brits brought in the Gurkha and SAS units to run rampant, but hey, it is what it is.

Here is some of the specialized jungle equipment as carried by British forces during the Malayan Emergency:

Lee Enfield Rifle No.5 Mk.I, Owen sub-machine gun and an M1 Carbine malaya 1950s
The weapons are a Lee Enfield Rifle No.5 Mk.I, Owen sub-machine gun and an M1 Carbine. Amongst the other equipment is a parang, first aid kit, pair of jungle boots, pair of hockey boots (for wearing at night), water bottle, mess tin and jungle ration pack (consists of cheese, jam, biscuits, ginger pudding, steak, liver and bacon, tea, sugar, milk, sweets, chewing gum, toilet paper, salt and one paludrine tablet).

Hattip Aposltes of Mercy

Italian Stallion: The Citadel M-1 Carbine in 9mm

The M-1 carbine is one of the most enduring of all American martial arms of the 20th Century. A “war baby” born during the most terrible conflict of all time, the M-1 was rapidly replaced by the U.S. Army in the 1960s but it’s never lost its home in the hearts of shooters from sea to shining sea. Today, it seems that an updated version from a well-known Italian concern is making a splash over here.

In 1937, the U.S. Army adopted the beautiful and efficient M-1 Rifle of Mr. John Garand as the standard combat arm of the country’s solders, replacing the Springfield 1903 bolt-action rifle that had served since before the First World War. The Garand was the best battle rifle of its day.

Semi-automatic, it held 8-rounds of hard-hitting 30.06 in an enbloc clip and could spit them out as fast as the soldier armed with it could pull the trigger. It could be fitted with a bayonet, a rifle grenade launcher, and was accurate out to 800-yards or better. However, it was huge and heavy at well over 9-pounds and over 43-inches long due to its 24-inch barrel. This led the military to search for a compact rifle that could be used by non-combat types such as truck drivers, cooks, and clerks, who didn’t need to lug around a 30.06 rifle that they likely would rarely use, but still needed more firepower than what a pistol allowed.

Marine awaits signal to go ahead in battle to recapture Guam from Japs.  July 1944. Lt. Paul Dorsey. (US Navy)

“Marine awaits signal to go ahead in battle to recapture Guam from Japs.” July 1944. Lt. Paul Dorsey. (US Navy)

In the end this search produced the M1 Carbine, with, as you know, the term ‘carbine’ being a designation for a short-rifle. This handy little semi-auto, since it used an 18-inch barrel and a miniaturized action due to its shorter 7.62x32mm (.30 Cal carbine) round, gave a gun that was just under a yardstick in length. Weight was a comfortable 5-ish pounds. Fed by detachable 15 or 30 shot magazines, these little carbines were very popular and were soon used by tank crews, paratroopers, NCO’s and others who rather a shorter rifle than the M1 Garand, while still able to hit reliable targets out to 100-yards or so.

Between 1941-45, over 6 million carbines were made by companies as diverse as Rock Ola (the jukebox people), Underwood (the typewriter guys), IBM (see Underwood), and Inland who made car parts for GM (more about this in a minute). This latter company churned out nearly 3-million by themselves.

Popular throughout WWII, Korea and the early part of Vietnam, the M1 Carbine was only fully replaced in U.S. service by the M16 in the late 1960s.

After the war a number of makers like Universal and Plainfield jumped on the huge stash of GI surplus parts to produce new (well, new-ish) M1 Carbines for the civilian market. Recently the born-again Auto Ordnance Company (owned by Kahr) started making all-new M1s here in the states and was joined by MKS-marketed Inland late last year.

Now they have some competition in the form of a 9mm carbine that looks and acts like a M-1 but takes the same mags as a Beretta 92F…and did we mention that it comes in synthetic all for around $500?

citadel m-1 syntheic 9mm carbine

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The original night vision shooter…

(Hey don't laugh, it was crazy advanced for 1945)

(Hey don’t laugh, it was crazy advanced for 1945)

My homie Ian over at Forgotten Weapons got his hands on an M3 Carbine up for grabs at the Rock Islands Auctions company.

At 34-pounds, it would take a M1 carbine and turn it into a primitive night-fighter gun that would see service at the tail end of WWII and during Korea.

Things they carred, Malayan Emergency

Specialised jungle equipment as carried by British forces during the Malayan Emergency The weapons are a Lee Enfield Rifle No5 MkI Owen sub-machine gun and an M1 Carbine

 

Specialized jungle equipment as carried by British forces during the Malayan Emergency: The weapons are a Lee Enfield Rifle No.5 Mk.I, Owen sub-machine gun and an M1 Carbine. Amongst the other equipment is a parang, first aid kit, pair of jungle boots, pair of hockey boots (for wearing at night), water bottle, mess tin and jungle ration pack (consists of cheese, jam, biscuits, ginger pudding, steak, liver and bacon, tea, sugar, milk, sweets, chewing gum, toilet paper, salt and one paludrine tablet).

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