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Huge Chinese Diesel Boat

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After generations of not being able  to get their nuclear powered boats to work right, the Chinese have gone and built the world’s largest conventional (diesel) sub. The Type 032 Qing-class test submarine is thought that this big diesel boomer will replace a forty-year old Golf class submarine that has been used since the Nixon era to test Chinese SLBMs.

For reference, it is thought to be over 6628-tons, making it very nearly the largest diesel boat ever made (the Japanese I-400 series boats, profiled on a previous Warship Wednesday, in fact drew 6670-tons at full load).  Except where the I400 was capable of carrying 3 seaplanes, a 140mm gun, and 8-torpedo tubes, the Qing is capable of carrying the 4500-nm range the JL-2A submarine-launched ballistic missile, CJ-20A cruise missiles and the YJ-18 anti-ship missile. Oh yeah, plus torpedoes.

Previous Chinese nuclear powered boats were considered the brass bands of the Pacific, being heard from miles away by P-3 crews and 688 boat passive arrays. These new ones may be an interesting move in the quiet direction.

Only time will tell.

Hattip to MP.net  for breaking the story even before Janes.

Remember, all the cool kids have Tan followers

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The rhyme goes: If its Green- start to lean, If its black- take it back (on the followers of your GI Mags)

So keep that in mind if you find a good deal on black-follower used GI mags…

Say what you want, but the LCS can really shake it

The littoral combat ship USS Independence (LCS 2) demonstrates its maneuvering capabilities in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of San Diego. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Daniel M. Young/Released)

The littoral combat ship USS Independence (LCS 2) demonstrates its maneuvering capabilities in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of San Diego. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Daniel M. Young/Released)

USS Independence operations

Warship Wednesday: Aug 8, 2013, The Lost Wake

Here at LSOZI, we are going to take out every Wednesday for a look at the old steam/diesel navies of the 1859-1946 time period and will profile a different ship each week. – Christopher Eger

Warship Wednesday:  Aug 8, 2013

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Here we see the river gunboat USS Guam steaming down the Yangtze river in old China. Unlike most of Uncle’s warships, she never once sailed US waters.

Built in China at the Kiangnan Dock and Engineering Works, Shanghai specifically for the US Navy, she was one of the first new-built Chinese gunboats for the US. Uncle had for generations maintained a fleet of coastal and river gunboats in Chinese waters. These boats, immortalized in the book and film the Sand Pebbles, were known as the Yangtze Patrol (COMYANGPAT), after the huge river system they commonly haunted. The first modern patrol started in 1901, was with three captured Spanish shallow draft gunboats (USS Elcano, Villalobos, and Callao) that had previously been used in the Philippines. Two more gunboats, USS Palos and Monocacy, were built at Mare Island in California in 1913 and shipped across the Pacific. By 1926 these five boats were all worn out and the navy went shopping for replacements.

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With dollars always short in the Navy budget, it just made sense to build these new boats in China, to save construction and shipping costs. These new ships consisted of two large 500-ton, 210-foot gunboats (USS Luzon and Mindanao); two medium-sized 450-ton, 191-foot boats (USS Oahu and Panay) and two small 350-ton, 159-foot boats (USS Guam and Tutuila).

Guam was commissioned 28 December 1927 and carried a designation as a patrol gunboat number 43 (PG-43), then reclassified the next year as patrol-boat, river, number 3 (PR-3) six months later. This change was due to the flat-bottom hulled craft being incapable of at-sea operations. Her 5-foot draft meant she could travel all over the inland river systems and she spent the next 14-years of her US Navy career doing so.

USS TUTUILA (PR-4) or USS GUAM (PR-3) Ship’s officers and crew, photographed at Hankow, China, on 14 July 1930. Note armored covers of bridge windows, awning frames, 3″/23 gun. Description: Courtesy of Ted Stone, 1977 Catalog #: NH 85840

She had a quiet life but it was exotic. Warlords, bandits, White Russian refugees, Communist rebels, and corrupt local governments changed every few miles along the river. By 1931, Japanese interests in the country meant a dangerous future for the Yangtze Patrol.

When Americans in China were in sticky situations from 1901-1941, this is how the brown-water sailors of the US Navy's YANGPAT came ashore.

When Americans in China were in sticky situations from 1901-1941, this is how the brown-water sailors of the US Navy’s YANGPAT came ashore.

In December 1937, 12 Japanese fighter-bombers attacked and sunk the larger USS Panay in Nanking, China as the boat was evacuating Americans from the embattled city.

Ichang, China view taken 18 May 1937, showing USS GUAM (PR-3), moored astern of USS PANAY (PR-5) prior to their inspection by the Commander in Chief Asiatic Fleet. British river gunboat GANNET (1927) is in the background, seen above PANAY. Description: Courtesy of Mr. and Mrs. Philip Yarnell, 1975 Catalog #: NH 81615

Following this incident tensions grew between the Japanese and US Navy ships in Chinese waters and Guam wandered around, decked in as many US flags as could be found, keeping quiet tabs. Just before Pearl Harbor, the four larger ships were withdrawn to the Philippines but Guam and her sister Tutuila were forced to remain behind, planned to be turned over to the Chinese.

On December 5, 1941, two days before the US entered WWII, COMYANGPAT was disbanded and the USS Guam renamed USS Wake earlier in the year, was the last US Navy ship in Chinese waters. Most of her crew had already left, transferred to the larger boats, and were in the Philippines. Just the captain and 14 crewmen remained aboard, destroyed vital papers, and wired the ship with scuttling charges.

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On December 8, 1941, the USS Wake surrendered to the Japanese military as crack marines of the Special Naval Landing Force stormed the ship before news of Pearl Harbor reached the naval vessel. Trapped in a no-win situation at the start of WWII, her captain did what he could to ensure the safety of his sailors who were marched off into five years of Japanese imprisonment.

Capture of USS WAKE (PR-3), 8 December 1941 Japanese special naval landing force personnel celebrate after they captured USS WAKE on the first day of World War II in the Pacific. The Shanghai “Bund” is in the background. Description: Courtesy of the Naval Historical Foundation. Catalog #: NH 96568

Japanese naval infantrymen aboard a ship off Shanghai, China, 8 Dec 1941 note captured American flag, 1928 Thompson sub-machine guns, and 12 gauge M1897 Winchester riot guns, all likely from USS Wake

She is the only US Navy ship to surrender in modern times.

It is perhaps this fact that has kept the US Navy from commissioning another USS Wake. As of this date, there has never been another. The captain and two other men escaped confinement in 1944 and walked 700 miles to Allied lines.

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The Japanese used her as a gunboat manned by their local Chinese surrogates under the name of Tatara. Surviving multiple US air raids during WWII, she was captured by the US Army in 1945 and given to the Nationalist Chinese who used her as the Tai Yuan.

In a final, and fitting chapter of her life, she was captured by Mao’s Red Chinese in 1949. They kept the old girl poking around until at least the late 1960s.

Her final disposition is unknown.

Specs:
Displacement: 350 long tons (360 t)
Length:     159 ft 5 in (48.59 m)
Beam:     27 ft 1 in (8.26 m)
Draft:     5 ft 3 in (1.60 m)
Installed power:     1,900 ihp (1,400 kW)
Propulsion:     2 × triple expansion steam engines
2 × screws
Speed:     14.5 kn (16.7 mph; 26.9 km/h)
Complement: 59
Armament:     1927: 2 × 3in guns (2×1) 8 × .30-06 Lewis machine guns (8×1), infantry weapons
1942: US-made 3″ guns replaced with Japanese 3″ AA guns.
Jan 1945 several Type 93 13.2mm M.G.s installed
1946 more light machineguns added. Presumably, refit with Soviet weapons in the 1950s.

Specs:
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SAS Raiders of the Falklands War

War nerd confession: I’ve always thought the Falklands campaign was fascinating. Its one of the few instances where two western militaries have fought each other in all-out combined war in land sea and air in modern times. Found this pretty neat 45-min. documentary on the SAS and SBS in the Falkland Islands War (1982). Includes interesting and such little-known stuff as the Top Malo house fight, the covert SAS/SBS intel teams in Argentina itself, the Pebble Island Raid, and others.

 

 

 

Union Captures Hamptons Flag…..again

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WASHINGTON (July 31, 2013) A Confederate flag captured from the CSS Hampton lies on a protective sheet during a ceremony celebrating the transfer of ownership of the flag from the Harrisonburg-Rockingham Historical Society to Navy History and Heritage Command. The note attached to the flag reads “That of Confed gun boat Hampton burnt in James River at the taking of Richmond. The flag was taken from the burning ship by Liet. Ladd (13th N. Hampshire), Gen. Devens staff.” The flag has been in the historical society’s possession since the 1960s. The museum plans to preserve the flag and make it a part of their Civil War exhibit. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Tim Comerford/Released)

 

 

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The Hampton was a Confederate gunboat built at Norfolk in 1862 then participated in significant river actions including the battle at Dutch Gap on August 13, 1864; operations against Fort Harrison on September 29-October 1; and the engagement at Chaffin’s Bluff on October 22.

Hampton was burned by the Confederates as they evacuated Richmond, Virginia on April 3, 1865.

Displacement:     166 tons
Length:     106 ft (32 m)
Beam:     21 ft (6.4 m)
Draft:     6 ft (1.8 m)
Propulsion:     Steam engine
Armament:     1 9″ cannon, 1 32-pounder cannon

Disney Insignia from WWII

You may or may not know that Disney and the guys in the art studio over there did thier part in the Big One back 70+ years ago. Walt had served  in France during WWI as a infantryman amongst the mustard gas so when WWII came about, he offered his studios services. They made all sorts of insignia (over 3000) for the military and the USNI has a gallery of it over at their website

Enjoy!

 

Get it, “Mine…Sweeper”
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US Artillery Archive up for Free

The Fires Bulletin is up in archived format at Ft Sills website. This runs from 1911 to 2007 and is an amazing time capsule of the US Army’s artillery arm.

Its here, save the link ! http://sill-www.army.mil/firesbulletin/archives/

Im gonna need a bigger harddrive.

(The Model 1908 US 6-inch howitzer on carriage. Frontpiece to The Field Artillery Journal of Octoner 1911. How often have you bumped into one of these?)

(The Model 1908 US 6-inch howitzer on carriage. Frontpiece to The Field Artillery Journal of October 1911. How often have you bumped into one of these?)

Poor Cuban Pete

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The worst thing about this body of a Soviet frontovik found along the Eastern Front is that he is armed with a
RPG-40 anti-tank grenade which probably means he was zapped while waiting for an approaching Panzer to get close enough.

Soviet RPG-40 anti-tank grenade.  RPG40 specs : Weight 1.22 kg Length 20 cm Filling 	TNT Filling weight 0.612 kg

Soviet RPG-40 anti-tank grenade.
RPG40 specs :
Weight 1.22 kg
Length 20 cm
Filling TNT
Filling weight 0.612 kg

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